Friday, November 6, 2009

Fort Hood Murders My Thoughts

SGT Anthony Sills of Texas National Guard' 36 Infantry Division consoling his wife after the Ft. Hood murders.



  • Although I was not there and can't really know what happened during the major who committed the murders at Ft. Hoods career (family claims he was harassed over being Muslim) I have been in the guard, regular army,peacetime,wartime, overseas in peace, a non combat job skill and combat job skill, been in several formal military schools, taught at a military academy as a guest instructor, served in several US states etc. etc. and one thing that always stood out- and I've considered it way before this event- teasing guys about their religion if not off limits is rare and self limiting if it happens.

  • Another thought: I would be more than surprised I would be shocked if in the hyper sensitive environment of the Army under its equal opportunity mandated environment and the Army wide fear of reprisals over harassment if there was a lot of harassment over that guys religion.
  • Specifically since his religion happens to be Islam.
  • Also, reports have come from a cousin to the killer that he was harassed over his race by being called a "camel jockey"- being harassed over ones race in the Army? Uh,uh- sorry didn't happen- to an extent it would trigger some kind of mental break anyway. Even the allegation of same will end with everyone in the chain being sentenced to interminable cultural sensitivity training, poor reflection in evaluation reports and proven abuses? Everyone associated will be punished by article 15 and if they're not lucky a discharge from service. Would a lawyer make a joke about a bomb under a judges car? A doctor joke in any thing approaching a public manner about poisoning his difficult patients? Don't think these are appropriate analogies? You don't understand modern military thought environment then- harassment especially harassment over race and religion is not tolerated.

  • If there's anything to his families claim- we'll hear about it from others he served with- that's the way it always is they don't have to break ranks there is always someone interested in doing the right thing and if nothing else a disgruntled troop who heard or witnessed something.

  • Many people will be more than happy to accept the assertion that he was "mortified" over his impending deployment to Afghanistan as the reason for these murders- come on, he is a psychiatrist what did he have to fear either in a personal safety aspect or in regards to some kind of shock to his religious sensibilities? The air conditioner in his office wouldn't blow cold enough or someone, somewhere might find out there's a Muslim serving as a doctor on the base where he is deployed?

  • The first talking head I saw discussing these murders began prattling on about PTSD in the first sentence he uttered. Ridiculous.

  • DFW local news as events unfolded.

  • The Soldiers Dome where the shootings happened is directly across the street from my old 1 Cavalry Division unit and when first built was a place for guys to drink and eat while watching sports, it was later converted to an SRC- Soldiers Readiness Center.

  • Howze Theater another location mentioned often in the newscasts about the murders was the first place I saw Platoon.

  • That guy wasn't wrapped too tight to begin with and the Army would have been the best hope he had to prevent a break (very good counselling, structured environment with good pay etc.).

  • Anyway, he didn't need an excuse with his mental problems and twisted worldview.

  • It's my opinion that if in the medical field mentally ill people will be more drawn to psychiatry, psychology and associated mental health disciplines. It kind of just makes sense but, is also demonstrable I bet- if you dug through news archives.

  • People are asking,"How did he kill so many people, why didn't someone shoot him- it's a military base." On a military base not everyone is armed at all times and even if you have a weapon for a class, a range or mobilising for deployment the troops will not have rounds for their weapons until they're needed and issued.

  • Sources reported a gunfight between another shooter and a SWAT team at a separate location simultaneous to the SRC murders- how does that happen, even in the fog of these developing situations?

  • "He said: "Ford Hood is perceived as being even safer than normal because of its size and scale." excerpted from an interview of a British major who had been stationed at Hood- his analysis is wrong though. Look at Fort Hood the same as any other city of 100,000 people except, a younger on average population, higher density of males per capita, sense of anonymity, a whole lot of people bringing all kinds of bad habits with them from their backgrounds, a lot of alcohol and drug abuse etc. The sense of safety on the post is deceptive.

  • I wonder what his case will do to the death penalty debate? Will opponents keep silent because they know the public desire for vengeance and how it will galvanize attitudes? You'll hear less from opponents than you might think at first glance I think.

  • I assure you- he will have his dance with the ole Grim Reaper at the sharp end of a needle.

8 comments:

YM said...

Your persepctive is interesting because of your military background & your familiarity with Ft. Hood, and far more believable than any I've heard up to now.

I also agree with you regarding the kind of person who goes into a mental health profession. Most of them are interested in mental health because of their own mental problems. I noticed this fact when I took my required psych class along with ppl majoring in the field. 3/4 of the class were recovering addicts going into drug and alcohol counseling.

Anonymous said...

Chup, I'm waiting for the even more tortured logic to pour forth. There will be tales of the discrimination and hatred he suffered at the hands of ignorant Americans.

Gia's Spot said...

**he will have his dance with the ole Grim Reaper at the sharp end of a needle.** We can only pray to God, Allah, Buddah all the Gods, that this will be so!!! And soon! Fukker...(Oh sorry for the cuss, it slips out when I feel hate!!)

MarmiteToasty said...

Its just so very sad...... all those lives by the hands of one of there own....

The week before last 5 British Military men were shot in Afganistan by one of the afganie police men they were training.... these soldiers of ours were training these men to help their country, to better their lives, and the trainie turned his gun on thise 5 soldiers and murdered them....

it sickens me....

Chuppa, fanks for this insight, I agree that nutter jobs like councilling jobs often attract those that have a big connection with the issues of the profession.... sigh....

Im so sorry for the loose of your men and all those that have lost their lives, minds, body parts fighting for the right of freedom and peace.....

big huge hugs (((Chuppa)))) to you dear man..

x

MarmiteToasty said...

sorry for the bad spellings Ive got a chest infection and running a temp of 102 lol..... bad to bed for me now :)

x

Edith Bunker said...

Thank you, you have now been more useful that CNN.
And to chime in...I wholeheartedly agree that the mental health profession attracting more than it's fair share of nutters. We're all somewhat introspective, and I suppose they can get some free help in the 'ol sample closet.
The part that I've heard that is most bothersome (besides the shooting, of course) is that he treated troops just back from deployment. What was he saying under the guise of treatment to those young soldiers??
Maybe he was just doing evals.

Gia's Spot said...

I hope we aren't seeing a pattern here.....................

LandShark 5150 said...

Chup -- GREAT take on it! The echo from this will be heard for yrs. I pray that this will go smoothly, but we know smooth is a discription for the Other side of the fence.
Sorry I have'nt commented of late, I been in classes and me time is eat'n away -- along with me brain.